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CriminallyVu1gar
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:15 pm 
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Anyone who can't find a job, and wants to keep crying about it can contact me via PM. I can get you some hours washing dishes where I work. This notion that no one can get a service industry job after an exhaustive 6 month search is LUDICROUS. If you want to cry about not getting a job IN YOUR FIELD, then start a new thread. Squanto told us he has a friend with a Stanford law degree who is waiting tables. Get over your bad selves already.


How about not getting a job that can financially support you? I don't think part timing as a dish washer is going to support anyone here.

What the hell sense does it make to take any job if it can't fully pay your bills/loans/rent? Especially if that money coming in is less than what you'd make on unemployment?

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What the hell sense does it make to take any job if it can't fully pay your bills/loans/rent? Especially if that money coming in is less than what you'd make on unemployment?

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How about not getting a job that can financially support you?

Then you do 2 things
get multiple jobs
reduce the price it costs to support yourself

I once had 3 jobs in my early 20's to support my hooker and blow habit...unfortunately it left me with no time to enjoy hookers and blow.

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Then you do 2 things
get multiple jobs
reduce the price it costs to support yourself

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daz28 wrote:
Anyone who can't find a job, and wants to keep crying about it can contact me via PM. I can get you some hours washing dishes where I work. This notion that no one can get a service industry job after an exhaustive 6 month search is LUDICROUS. If you want to cry about not getting a job IN YOUR FIELD, then start a new thread. Squanto told us he has a friend with a Stanford law degree who is waiting tables. Get over your bad selves already.


Honestly, I'm not even looking for a job in finance, but I can't get a sniff by most reputable employers because of that fancy 4 year degree in finance (with honors). I hear it day after day, you have a 4 year degree, why do you want to apply for an "entry level job"

Then I get passed over for some fucking dick tard with a GED; because he'll stay there for 20 years and not rock the boat.

Honestly, if you think I'm crying about my job search, you can think again. I'm just sick of being told that growing up, going to college, and then living the American dream. Because it's bullshit, they've taken too much from the common guy, and given too much power to government and the private sector employers. These guys hold the key to survival for many American families. Employment at Will has become, dont rock the boat, because we can fire your ass; and claim insubordination as reason to fire you.

Yeah, btw, I'm not above trying to get a job in the service industry, I'm a very experienced bar tender, but I sure as shit am not even getting a job doing that because I dont have tits and a slutty personality.

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PatGreen wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Then you do 2 things
get multiple jobs
reduce the price it costs to support yourself

i'm putting my hand on the monitor. please do the same so we can transmit awesome high fives


I'm putting part of my hand on the monitor!

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Anyone who can't find a job, and wants to keep crying about it can contact me via PM. I can get you some hours washing dishes where I work. This notion that no one can get a service industry job after an exhaustive 6 month search is LUDICROUS. If you want to cry about not getting a job IN YOUR FIELD, then start a new thread. Squanto told us he has a friend with a Stanford law degree who is waiting tables. Get over your bad selves already.


How about not getting a job that can financially support you? I don't think part timing as a dish washer is going to support anyone here.

What the hell sense does it make to take any job if it can't fully pay your bills/loans/rent? Especially if that money coming in is less than what you'd make on unemployment?

Max unemployment is $400. If you work, and make less than that, they will compensate you up to your benefit amount. It's not like they take your unemployment away if you take a job that doesn't pay much.

I'm sorry your having trouble finding a job jv, but my point was just that 6 months is usually ample time to find a job of some sort. That 99 weeks crap seemed ridiculous to me, because people were abusing it like crazy.


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I'm sorry your having trouble finding a job jv, but my point was just that 6 months is usually ample time to find a job of some sort. That 99 weeks crap seemed ridiculous to me, because people were abusing it like crazy.


Show me some facts that the majority of people are abusing it.

Show me some facts that the majority of people are able to find work in 6 months.

You can't.

This is an extremely bad recession. Companies are NOT hiring in general.

This assumption that anyone on extended unemployment benefits is some bum is fucking bullshit.


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The thought of finding multiple jobs, to me, is ludicrous. I was part timing while collecting unemployment, while my girlfriend was job searching. I took her to EVERY store. Some would say "we'll call you in a few days, we've got a few people who won't be here much longer", others would say "we'll let you know when we're hiring".

In 3 solid months of job searching, she NEVER received one call back.

Here in fantasy land (near DC), it's fuckin rainbows and unicorns. Companies hire all the time here, but it's because there's SO MUCH GOVERNMENT and MILITARY here. Jobs that aren't going ANYWHERE.

Back in reality land, it's not so easy. If it were, I'd say fuck it, and get 3 jobs in Buffalo, just to live there again.

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Squanto wrote:

Show me some facts that the majority of people are abusing it.

Show me some facts that the majority of people are able to find work in 6 months.

You can't.

yes, but you can't prove your point with facts either. i tend to believe about 40% of people abuse unemployment.


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yes, but you can't prove your point with facts either. i tend to believe about 40% of people abuse unemployment.


I have a singular point that doesn't need factual basis to back it up.

Not everyone on unemployment is a deadbeat bum that isn't trying to find work. That's the message daz is portraying, and which is bullshit.


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Hang in there, but if you're a white man don't expect any favoritism from the government.

[jessejackson]whitey don't deserve it[/jessejackson]



With all due respect to the Reverend Jesse Jackson, too many people have given there lives and more for this country so we can ALL enjoy freedom. Nobody has died more for the black man, then the white man. I wish more black leaders would remember that. I'm not suggesting that white people aren't racist, we can be, but you can't trade one racism for another and call it freedom. Blaming white people for repression without ever acknowledging the sacrifices white people made/make for their freedom is convoluted and racist.

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Show me some facts that the majority of people are abusing it.

Show me some facts that the majority of people are able to find work in 6 months.

You can't.

yes, but you can't prove your point with facts either. i tend to believe about 40% of people abuse unemployment.



That AND welfare. A lot of people work under the table and collect food stamps too. I've been to the extreme of both sides, I've milked the system and I've lowered my cost of living and got by without any aid while working 2 jobs (one on the graveyard shift) and going to school.

Never turned to crime. Paid everybody back, and I'm proud to pay taxes now and if they go towards helping others who need it I'm fine with that. But I'm still ashamed for abusing the system, it's like stealing.

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I'm 16, going into junior year in HS next year, not athletic enough to get scholarships, not hyper intelligent, have no disabilities, have no idea where to find a good college for history majors, and am seriously debating joining the Coast Guard because 1. It's what my father did for 25 ish years 2. I can't think of anything I'd rather do other then History related jobs and 3. It's a steady fucking job.



Do Community College and live at home. Thats what im doing now, and i have no debt. course I will be transfering in a year told a 4 year so... but i think that is the good way to go.

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X-pensfan wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
Squanto wrote:

Show me some facts that the majority of people are abusing it.

Show me some facts that the majority of people are able to find work in 6 months.

You can't.

yes, but you can't prove your point with facts either. i tend to believe about 40% of people abuse unemployment.



That AND welfare. A lot of people work under the table and collect food stamps too. I've been to the extreme of both sides, I've milked the system and I've lowered my cost of living and got by without any aid while working 2 jobs (one on the graveyard shift) and going to school.

Never turned to crime. Paid everybody back, and I'm proud to pay taxes now and if they go towards helping others who need it I'm fine with that. But I'm still ashamed for abusing the system, it's like stealing.



Where I work at least half of the customers that come through my line are people who use food stamps for nothing but junk food. and they look and smell scuzzy to. and I know im not the only register that has them come through. Sure some people actually get the stuff they need, but when they buy tv dinners and 8 two liter bottles of pop, its almost outrageous. Food Stamps should be set up like wic checks. you can only get certain things.

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Do Community College and live at home. Thats what im doing now, and i have no debt.


That's not always an option for people. I moved out at 17 and had no possibility of moving back home. I worked 50 hours a week to support myself and had to drop out of college because of it. Wasn't able to go back until a number of years later.


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This assumption that anyone on extended unemployment benefits is some bum is fucking bullshit.

I agree.

And the assumption that we should extend unemployment benefits in perpetuity is also bullshit.
The fact that business, who are already in a position that they can't hire, are additionally put on the hook to pay for those perpetual unemployment benefits is bullshit.

The fact that a particular political party directly benefits from a permanent welfare class is also bullshit.

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Do Community College and live at home. Thats what im doing now, and i have no debt.


That's not always an option for people. I moved out at 17 and had no possibility of moving back home. I worked 50 hours a week to support myself and had to drop out of college because of it. Wasn't able to go back until a number of years later.



Oh ya thats true. I just thought i would throw it out there as an option :)

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And the assumption that we should extend unemployment benefits in perpetuity is also bullshit.
The fact that business, who are already in a position that they can't hire, are additionally put on the hook to pay for those perpetual unemployment benefits is bullshit.

The fact that a particular political party directly benefits from a permanent welfare class is also bullshit.


Don't disagree with any of this.

I'm just getting riled up because I have a good number of friends that are well educated and willing to work, yet can't find reasonable employment, and they're being disparaged by this asinine 'lazy bum' theory. Hell, we have three people on these boards in the same situation.


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Are you saying we're not friends now Squanto? Because if so, I want my letterman jacket back! :lol:

I have another 2 interviews today, we'll see how that goes.

As for a lazy bum, I hardly consider myself that, and nobody that has ever spent more than 10-15 minutes with me would accuse me of that either.

I am not saying this to toot my own horn, but I go above and beyond in almost everything I do, including being a good friend, employee, or just a good person in general. I do tons of charity events, and am always there for a friend when they need a hand.

If I were lazy, wouldn't I just pedal drugs on the corner, and collect a welfare check at the same time?

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