I bet it was the new Pope...that guy just seems too nice. There's something going on with him.

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I don't think political agenda really matters here, whoever did this isn't an example of either political party.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/special-f ... d=18986177

FBI releases images of the suspects. Couple of white kids.

I doubt there was much point to this act except for a couple of over-testosteroned kids trying to express their existential and sexual frustration through the only outlet many people have for self-expression in this society: violent rage.

looking at the pictures I wouldn't say "white kids".
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-201_162-10016497.html
Yeah, they're not black or Asian, but you can't say conclusively they're not say, arab or hispanic or any combination of caucasian bi-racial. One of them also looks much older than the other IMO. The guy in the black hat looks maybe late 20's early 30's...the guy in the white hat looks early 20's to me.
I only listened to it on the radio but I didn't hear the FBI give a race or age approximation. :/

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Does it really matter what race they are other than for descriptive purposes? Either way they're awful, awful people.

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I feel pretty comfortable saying they look pretty damn caucasian to me. Fashion-sense and haircuts seem pretty white kid to me too.

To B & Y: does it matter? Maybe not, but you can be pretty freaking sure that if they were something other than white, that would have mattered to many.

Well, when the FBI releases a nation-wide manhunt for unknown persons, descriptions are pretty important.

So yes, their race is a non-trivial fact.

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This will probably sound a little twisted, but I am personally glad it appears to be a couple American white kids. That's because I think that will make it harder for the majority of Americans to try and pin this on a group of "others". This will make it easier to see this was the act of INDIVIDUALS. I feel if it had been arabs, foreigners, or even blacks or asians, it could be easier for people to reinforce bigotry against the "other". After 9/11, many idiots started targeting mosques and arab-Americans. Nobody targeted white Christians after Oklahoma City though.

I still don't see how you're so sure.
Hell, you even speculated at motive when the pictures were released.

The guy in the black hat looks like a "white kid" to you?
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-201_162-10016497-12.html

He looks like a bi-racial (hispanic or other) man to me.

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Well, now we're getting into some real gray areas. Is someone from Italy white? Is someone from Greece or Hungary white? Is someone from Spain white but someone from Mexico hispanic?

That guy could be from any one of those backgrounds or a dozen more. But I do call American Italians white, so I'm going white there for the sake of easy classification

Point is, these are two young men who look like anybody else in most any other city in the country of their same age and gender.

They could be spies under super-deep cover. But then there's the fact they allowed themselves to be so clearly filmed doing this. Plus the fact that they made very primitive bombs, effective though they may have been. To me, this all reeks of amateurism. So yeah, I'm going with a couple of American guys, maybe even from Boston, who got a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook and said "Wouldn't it be so rad if we...?"

Could easily be wrong, but that's my theory.

Personally I think he looks Indian, but yeah it's a gray area.
Don't you find it interesting that the FBI has absolutely no idea what their identities are?
Anyone in the last 10-15 years who's gotten a drivers license, or any other government issued ID is in a facial recognition database.
Perhaps they don't have enough data points from the photos and video they have, but from what I've seen, I'd assume the FBI would have a better idea unless they're foreign.

Hell, they said they had a suspect in the ricin letters this week almost immediately.
That case seems like a more difficult one to connect the dots....but what do I know? I don't even watch cop shows on TV.

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Not many people get photographed from above at long distance wearing baseball hats in their ID photos. If security footage is all they have on them, I'm not surprised facial-recognition ha come up short. Ever watch yourself on one of those close-circuit systems? Your friends would recognize you, but a computer probably wouldn't.

They have a straight on shot of the white looking guy (http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-201_162-10016497-15.html) from ground level and they also have a profile shot of him (http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mlI5C ... 68d626dd8e). you could make a pretty good 3D model from those 2 pictures alone.
What I've seen is a mix of cell phone and surveillance footage.

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I'm with cross on this one, I'm really not sure these guys are white, they look vaguely semetic to me, i'm guessing now it is an al-queda type/radical muslim motivation. We were told they were trying to recruit people with a more caucasian phenotype, as to be able to fit in better. These guys look to fit that bill to me.

I'm kind of annoyed, my liberal bias was hoping it was some right wing assbag.

Stuuuu....Nails and ball bearing projectiles because of some sexually frustrated adolescent rant? WTF are you smokin dude? And why the fuck haven't you passed it this way you bogart?

You know, I want to toss a random Thanks to Cross for not censoring words on here, it's refreshing.

They look like they could be any race. Don't go all CNN on me bro.

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poops.

This has been one hell of a week

Boston marathon bombing
ricin laced letters to congress and the white house
fertilizer plant in Tx blows sky high
shooter at MIT

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Chechnyan kids. Both legally here, moved with their parents.

Older brother dead, younger one still on the loose. Female accomplice yanked out of an apartment.

Surreal. Like something out of a movie script.

I heard accomplice was male, and naked

That the kids have been here around 1 year

And apparently they had an 'extended' gun battle featuring multiple 'huge' explosions in watertown?